[F500] A Little Additional History and an Equity Proposal

[John Whitling]

YOU GUYS ARE CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No 
way I'm putting 100 lbs of lead in my car for a bunch of lazy Vee 
drivers. Our cars are the GCR legal cars. Go bastardize the the Vees 
some more.

BTW, at least all one new solo car is being built for FMod that uases a 
440 with a weight break so don't give me the story that a 440 isn't 
competitive either. And Bill, you cannot expect to compete with old tires.

Jan Schmidt wrote:

>I agree 100% with Jim on this one. It would cost about $50 for lead and
>a couple of bolts. Make the 494's and 493's both weigh 900lbs and leave
>everyone else alone (vees and f440s). There was only 1 F440 in the
>trophies this year and that driver weighs about 130 lbs (lots of ballast
>in that car). That f440 was the cleanest, most well built F440 I have
>seen in 3 years of playing with these cars. 
>Bill Schmidt 88 Red Devil Kawi
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>Bobby,
>As one of the writers of the rules that established F Mod as a budget
>class, we based this class on BOTH the F440/500's AND the SV's while the
>FV's were the actual afterthought as they were deemed noncompetitive. 
>Most of our time was spent writing the SV part of the rules as we just
>said that the F440/500's had to be GCR legal.  Later, we found out that
>there was a loophole in that the lighter Solo legal roll bar and chassis
>stucture could also be used - examples of this are the Dave Phaneuf and
>Art Trier cars.  Our prime directive was and is the equity in HP/weight
>ratio of 10 lbs per HP between the F440/500's and the SV.  This resulted
>in the SV engine allowances that would provide an output of roughly 100
>HP for their 1,000 lb minimum weight.  The AMW was the 500cc motor back
>then and produced with a good pipe about 80 hp, so 800 lbs was a good
>minimum weight.  
>Now the 494 with a good pipe produces around 90 hp so do we raise the
>F500 weight up to 900 lbs to be true to the prime directive of 10 lbs
>per HP?  I propose that weight changes be used to bring equity back
>between the SV's and the F440/500's because it is the cheapest method of
>doing this and F Mod IS a budget class.
> 
>Jim
>Been messing with these cars since 1982

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