[F500] Puck vs Shocks ad nauseam

[Jay Novak]

The original 850 minis did have a rubber suspension but DID NOT have a
shock.

Thanks ... Jay Novak


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From: f500-bounces+jnovak6=wideopenwest.com at f500.org
[mailto:f500-bounces+jnovak6=wideopenwest.com at f500.org]On Behalf Of Tim
Allen
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 2:12 PM
To: f500 at f500.org
Subject: Re: [F500] Puck vs Shocks ad nauseam


Eric,

Your memory of the mini suspension isn't accurate.  All rubber cone (dry)
suspension minis had standard telescopic shock absorbers on all four
corners. The rubber cone looks more like a plumbers helper that a cone.  The
hydrolastic (wet) suspended minis did not use shocks, but many people added
them on the front to dampen the squishy ride(as the old BMC advertisements
said - you really did feel like you were "Floating on Fluid).  The hydro
bags were not connected diagonally but front to back on each side.  Many
people that raced minis ditched the hydo set up in favor of the dry.

I don't know why I felt compelled to post mini info on the F500 site other
than I have one of each sitting in my garage.
Incidentally, the both share the same 80" wheel base, approx 55" track and
10" wheels.

Tim Allen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Fahlgren" <eric at wryday.com>
To: <f500 at f500.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [F500] Puck vs Shocks ad nauseam


> Jan Schmidt wrote:
>
>> Some of the original Mini Coopers had rubber doughnuts for suspension,
>> also. I dont know if that was their dampeners, too? I have a friend that
>
> Bill,
>
> Most Minis did not have any auxiliary dampers, they just had the conical
> rubber springs.  The Cooper S had the "hydrolastic" suspension, with a
> fluid transfer system on top of the spring membrane, which was configured
> in an "X" so that compression on one corner caused a corresponding lifting
> of the diagonal corner; it probably effected quite a bit of damping
> through
> friction losses in the hoses (the fluid was simply 50/50
> water/anti-freeze).
> My mom's CS race car had some auxiliary Konis on the front when she bought
> it as a street car, but she ditched them when she went racing as no one
> else was running them.
>
> http://www.not2fast.com/mini/joan/
>
> Eric

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